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Monday, August 29, 2005

The Other Side of Canada

In connection with the husband's previous article on Canada's rediculously absurd petition against people moving to "settlements" in East Jerusalem, I wanted to present that there was another side to America's drunken uncle to the North. Canadian Jews have to suffer with an incredible left wing liberal epidemic that is plaguing the territories. I blame this partially on the incredibly stupid open immigration policy that they have. I also think that they're just so starving for anybody to move there that they're trying to adapt every loony political opinion that exists, e.g. legalizing homosexual marriage. The Jews up there have to suffer with a population that protests the occupation of "Palestine"! The Israel Action Committe in Canada was designed to counteract these devastating opinions. I have been on other blogs sharing the facts with naive people who think they know the know about Israel; not knowing that all they know is what their media throws at them. One of the facts that have gotten the biggest resentment and outcry is when I say that there is no such thing as a "Palestinian" and that there has never been an independently sovereign governed state of Palestine that has been controlled by the Palestinian people. That is why being Palestinian is only defined as your state of mind. If you feel and have a nationalistic mental and emotional connection to the "Palestinian" culture, then you're Palestinian. There is no real legal status for it. There are hundreds of thousands of Jews and Christians that can also be classified as Palestinians because they lived in Israel before it was Israel. But, enough of the history lesson. I was scouring the internet aimlessly one day, and I found a very humorous commentary on The Israel Action Committee's website, in response to an article written by Elliot Choddof, called "Rantisi Gets His Wish". Elliot's website, Mid-East On Target, can be found to the right under the links. It describes what I've been trying to say in what that I could not. Enjoy:

A brief overview of the situation is always valuable, so as a service to all Americans who still don't get it, I now offer you the story of the Middle East in just a few paragraphs, which is all you really need.
Here we go:
The Palestinians want their own country. There's just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians. It's a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian" sounds ancient but is really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in the 1967 war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, the West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no "Palestinians". As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the Palestinians," weeping for their deep bond with their lost "land" and "nation.".
So for the sake of honesty, let's not use the word "Palestinian" any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone points out they're being taped. Instead, let's call them what they are: "Other Arabs Who Can't Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death." I know that's a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN. How about this, then: "Adjacent Jew-Haters." Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one more thing. No, they don't. They could've had their own country any time in the last thirty years, especially two years ago at Camp David. But if you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks and Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living. That's no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israe l. They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course --that's where the real fun is -- but mostly they want Israel. Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel - or "The Zionist Entity" as their textbooks call it -- for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they're the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God's Earth, and if you've ever been around God's Earth, you know that's really saying something.
It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Mideast. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't given anything to the world since Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of a lot for that one. Chew this around and spit it out: Five hundred million Arabs; five Million Jews. Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these same folks swear that if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals. Really? Wow, what neat news. Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea? Oh, that? We were just kidding.
My friend Kevin Rooney made a gorgeous point the other day: Just reverse the Numbers. Imagine five hundred million Jews and five million Arabs. I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it. Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dy namite to themselves? Of course not. Or marshaling every fiber and force at their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab State into the sea? Nonsense. Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents? Impossible. Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children? Disgusting. No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death.
Mr. Bush, God bless him, is walking a tightrope. I understand that with vital operations in Iraq and others, it's in our interest, as Americans, to try to stabilize our Arab allies as much as possible, and, after all, at can't be much harder than stabilizing a roomful of supermodels who've just had their drugs taken away. However, in any big-picture strategy, there's always a danger of losing moral weight. We've already lost some. After September 11 our president told the world and us he was going to root out all terrorists and the countries that supported them. Beautiful. Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of an Oklahoma City every week (and then every day) start to do the same thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint. If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be done with it and kill everything south of the Mediterranean and east of the Jordan. (To our knowledge, Mr. Miller is not Jewish. He is more supportive of Israel than some of our fellow Jews.)
-OC

16 Comments:

At 1:45 AM, Blogger Chai18 said...

great article!

 
At 5:01 AM, Blogger yochanan said...

they don't call it CANUKISTAN for nothing.

 
At 10:56 PM, Blogger Jameel @ The Muqata said...

OC: Quick story. The day after friends of ours were thrown out of Neve Dekalim at the wee hours of the morning, and dumped off at a hotel in Natzrat Elite, I took them to Tel-Aviv. We needed to meet their lawyers to discuss compensation from the government. On the way - we asked directions from a Tel-Avivian how to get to Migdal Shalom. The reply we got was: "Why? You want to blow it up?"

Here's what the Left's dream of Israel is:

http://rotter.net/forum/scoops1/5972.shtml

 
At 11:32 PM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

What kind of stupid ass question is that?!?
-OC

 
At 11:22 AM, Blogger Jameel @ The Muqata said...

OC: That question is the result of the media and the Left educating Israelies as to who the "settlers" are. This family had just been kicked out of their home, and the only kind word from this Tel-Avivian was "What do you want to blow up next?"

Many leftists have said outright that after they accomplish their goal of making Yesha, Judenrein, (of which they are making decent progress), their next goal is the eradication of the "Jewish" aspect of Israel.

Its highly important to understand their goals when formulating your own opinions, so you don't inadvertantly end up on the wrong side of where you want to be.

 
At 2:07 PM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

That is why, Jameel, this whole time I have said that just b/c I'm in favor of the disengagement does not make me a leftie. I am not now nor have I ever had those kinds of opinions. My reasons for my support has nothing to do with those reasons. We're one opposite sides of the field there, and I know exactly where my opinions put me; nowhere near where they are.
-OC

 
At 2:35 PM, Blogger Jameel @ The Muqata said...

OC: I understand your comment, however any support for the Disengagement, like it or not, fuels the Left, and the media which propogates Leftist ideaology.

The Disengagement was done in a totally "Leftist" manner, and is being touted as a Leftist victory (ie. the article above). Supporting an action, (even for a different reason) which leads to a Leftist victory, Leftist Opinion pieces, and the sort of comment I heard many of in Tel-Aviv -- in my opinion, may do more harm than good (in the case that you assume that the Hitnatkut is a good thing).

Food for thought...nothing more.

 
At 3:11 PM, Blogger amechad said...

Jameel -- you fail to understand nuances. Read this article in Foreign Policy. In fact, the reason that the Tel Avivian may have acted that way was b/c of the non-nuanced way some of the opposition to the hitnatkut behaved. That is, the few fanatics convinced a lot of people to support -- not oppose -- the disengagement.

 
At 5:53 PM, Blogger Jameel @ The Muqata said...

am1: You can twist any story to fit a position. The Foreign Policy article's premise is that Sharon will "hold the line." Too bad the article has no actual date on it -- just 2 days ago, Israeli deputy PM Ehud Olmert stated that there will be additional withdrawals. If its your opinion that the Jews being kicked out of their homes should go quietly and that any opposition is "fanatical", then there's no way to avoid Tel-Avivians from hating. However, if the Leftist media reports blatant lies, such as the "fanatical violence" in Kfar Darom with acid being poured on soldiers (which is a blatant lie), then there are no nuances to deal with. The Leftist media presents the "facts"...and its case closed. For example:

Lets count all the incitement based on the "acid" story from Sharon all the way down. (The following is the tip of the iceberg of the acid lie)

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArtVty.jhtml?sw=acid&itemNo=614854

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArtVty.jhtml?sw=acid&itemNo=614844

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArtVty.jhtml?sw=acid&itemNo=614490

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3130249,00.html

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3129949,00.html


Now the flipside. Hardly any mentioning that MK Miki Eitan from the Likud personally investigated the story (as well did Reshet Bet reporter who was on the roof at the time who said that no acid was used by anyone. He called it a blood libel.

MK Eitan: Acid attack reports a 'blood libel'
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3130223,00.html

Its nearly impossible to fight a media so bent on portraying the settlers as evil, that the "nuances" you claim exist, are in fact a war aimed at the destruction of the settlements and religious Judaism in Israel.

While you may have your own opinions, your voice ends up serving the wrong side of where you want to be.

 
At 6:54 PM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

What are you talking about?!? Blatant lie?!? We saw it happen! It was acid. Not to mention that they through a bleach onto the soldiers and cops that burns skin and through clothes. If you will see previous comments I've made, that behavior was disgusting, unacceptable, and a blatant Chilul Hashem. Every action is taken by each side to sawy interpretations to their sides. You've done it many times also. Jameel, I also don't want to get back into that old argument where we argue over my reasons to support the disengagement. I also don't believe that my opinions fall anywhere near the left. Actually, I believe that my opinion falls within a different line altogether; not even the centrist toe this line. I don't believe that I fall into your streotyped categories, either.
-OC

 
At 10:06 PM, Blogger Jameel @ The Muqata said...

OC: First of all - Nissim Keinan, (not a supporter of the right by any say of the imagination) Reshet Bet reporter who was ON THE ROOF of the Beit Knesset in Kfar Darom was reporting live from the scene. He was told over and over, "Look at the acid being poured on the soldiers!" He reported back (live, on reshet bet), "I'm sorry, but I'm up here with the protestors, and they are not pouring acid on anyone. There is no acid here. All they are pouring is 'seed' (limewater)." He then proceeded to read off all the ingrediants. Not one soldier or policeman was admitted to the hospital. Yes, they made it LOOK LIKE it was acid, but there wasn't any. MK Miki Eitan (who supported the disengagenent) personally looked into this issue (along with many others), and concluded that it was ALL A BIG LIE. Look how convincing the media was -- EVEN YOU BELIEVE IT! This isn't a debate about pro or anti disengagement, its about media portrayal of what actually happened. No one's skin was burned (btw - acid and bleach cause 2cnd degree skin burns, yet not ONE policeman or soldier was admitted to the hospital with any burns at all).

I didn't say your opinions fall anywhere near the left, and I honestly don't believe that you are personally anywhere near left. Otherwise, you wouldn't have moved to Israel in the first place. However, you are being influenced by the left (and you fell for the acid libel), and you are being used by the left. Thats my only point - that even if you believe in your viewpoint, it serves the left in Israel, which is a danger to the future of this country.

If you would like a MDA report that none of the soliders or policemen were hospitalized, and that no bleach or acid were thrown on anyone, I can provide it for you.

 
At 12:23 PM, Blogger Oleh Yahshan said...

Jameel - you may be right it was not Acid, it was something else that caused a Skin and Eye irettation, Even if it was not ment to do that. Whatever the stuff was, it was enough to have a group of Yasam Guys throw their clothes off and need to get washed off, or was what I saw just another big conspirecy??

The point is not the Acid or not. It's much bigger than that. Watching the tv for the entire week non stop, the pictures that really got to me (and I hope got to everyone), where of the people of the Gush, Taken out of thier house. instead of showing that, the media ended up focusing on a bunch of kids wo at the end of the day went home to their parent's home took a shower and had a nice warm meal while the people in the gush left un-noticed by almost anyone. That is where I place the blame on the kids in Kfar Darom, what they did caused double damage, once by taking away from what was really going on, and a 2nd time by making it look like everyone is like that, when in fact we know that the truth far from it.

 
At 1:18 PM, Blogger Jameel @ The Muqata said...

OY: I appreciate your "inyani" response. If you had listened to Reshet Bet's live report at the time, you would have had a different opinion of what happened -- and I'm trying to get a transcript of Nissim Keinan's reporting from the roof. He said at the end of the day, he could only admire the kids on the roof. He said they didn't try to hurt anyone, and when the soldiers and police started getting onto the rooftop, the kids didn't push them off, even though had they wanted to, they could have. There was no "chilul hashem", it was a "maavak" to show how important the land is. I don't think the act of pouring paint on soldiers is a chilul Hashem, within the framework of what was happening. (The same happened in Yamit, and no one says that Yamit was a "violent" protest. A friend of mine on the roof (acting as a photographer) also mentioned that after the media was done with Kfar Darom, alot of kids were beaten up by the police (off camera) in retribution for the paint being spilled on them. More Importantly: my houseguests (Neve Dekalim refugess) staying by me were thrilled with the actions of the kids on the rooftop. Yes, my houseguests were physically evicted from their home at 2:30 AM, and then dumped in a hotel in Natzrat Elite -- and THEY said, its important for people to see Gush Katif supporters putting up a "maavak." They personally wanted to be dragged screaming from their home, which is how they (and many others) wanted to remember leaving their home. They did not want to leave quietly at all. Lastly, while everyone hyped up the non-existant shooting scenarios (in the Gush, and in Chomesh and Sa-Nur) -- it was a total show. No one ever considered using weapons of any sort. So, when the only thing left was paint, and it was poured on soldiers, it suddenly became a "huge" issue. If it was a real eye and skin irritant, then why were NONE of the police or soldiers admitted to the hospital? Its not a "conspiracy" -- its a blood libel. If you wish, I can give you MK Miki Eitan's number and you can speak to him personally. He'll tell you that it was all a blood libel to make the kids in Kfar Darom look bad.

Lastly. None of the kids from Kfar Darom went home that night for a warm shower in their parents home. They were all arrested and spent a week in jail. In the end, they were ALL released, with no charges brought against them. Why? Maybe because there was no real violence in the first place.

Gotta run. Real work to do.

 
At 2:49 PM, Blogger Jameel @ The Muqata said...

Reminder: Today at 16:00 in front of the mashbir in central Jerusalem are the hespedim for the 15 Jews who were exhumed from their graves in Gush Katif for reburial on Har HaZeitim.

 
At 9:21 PM, Blogger Shaggydabbydo said...

Hi The Shamefilled,

How shameful do you feel today?

Regs, Shaggy

 
At 11:45 PM, Blogger Shaggydabbydo said...

Hi Shameful One,

Send your Miriam out until she learns she is ra-sha, and that you are ra-sha also for your deeds.

Regs, Shaggy

 

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