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Thursday, June 15, 2006

They Just don't get it

I have posted something in my other Blog about the new round of Media attempt to revive the Cycle of violence: This time it comes from the Toronto Star (and I am sure not the only one.

This is not the first and, I am sure, not the last Article to be written on the “cycle of violence”. But the rise of it again after this week’s events raises the ridiculous theory again that somehow the Kassams fired this week were in response to the Death on the beach (the one that Israel apparently had nothing to do with). An article printed in the Toronto Star today by Robert Brym says the following:

With the assistance of Israeli and Palestinian graduate students, I have collected information from Israeli databases and Arabic newspapers on all 138 suicide bombings that took place in the region from the beginning of the second intifada in September 2000 to mid-July 2005.

I have found that the most common motivation for suicide attacks involves revenge and retaliation for Israeli actions against Palestinians. Every time Israel engages in a targeted assassination — and every time it engages in other forms of repressive violence — it enrages the Palestinian population and sows the seeds for future suicide attacks.

Read the rest of it here.

4 Comments:

At 4:30 PM, Blogger amechad said...

Unfortunately I don't remember the books, but you've studied Poli Sci and especially at Hebrew U I presume you've studied a little game theory and have been introduced to "tit-for-tat" -- so, the reality is there is more to the whole "cycle of violence" theory than we like to give it credit for (but, perhaps, less than the media does)

(Not a reliable source, of course, but Wikipedia has a good article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_Tat)

 
At 4:38 PM, Blogger Osaid Rasheed said...

... regarding the killing of the family on Gaza beach : it is still not clear yet, but most reports and wittnesses are supporting that the cause was Israeli shells. you cannot simply say 'which israel has nothing to do with ', its not proven yet.

... and yes, almost all suicide bombings are carried out in response to Israeli " operations ". No more comments on that.

 
At 5:25 PM, Blogger Oleh Yahshan said...

Osaid,
you are simply wrong, in both casses - and all I can say is that it seems that you have not actually read the rest of the post.

The truth is that the palestinian Terrorist Orgs. Try to carry out terrorist attacks all the time. It would be like me trying to hit you all the time - but most of the time you are able to block me - at one point or another you hit me - and I keep trying to hit you... the next time I hit you I claim it is retaliation to you hitting me.
Sorry about the simplifacation but it's the best way I can describe it.

 
At 9:08 PM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

Osaid, all information and evidence points to Hamas mines being behind the death of the Gazan family. It is actually very clear, but you know... Never let a little thing like facts get in the way of a good anti-Israel tirade. Oh yeah, and how long is the window open for retaliation? The IDF has NOT responded to the increase of rocket fire this week, yet the rockets are still flying into Israel. So, how long do you define "retaliation"? Also, would you please provide point by point, even by event, to show that "almost all suicide bombings are responses to Israeli 'operations'". Please, be sure to define how long and how much preparation is necessary to plan a given attack, and correlate it to the time between an Israeli "operation" (as you put it), and Palestinian "retaliation". Then, I would like you to say why you put operations in quotation marks? After that, I would like you to then morally justify, if you've been able to "prove your point", that therefore suicide bombings indicriminatelly targeting civilians is OK. M'kay?

Am, game theory has actually failed when it comes to military affairs, and I don't know about every conflict in the world, but when it comes to this conflict, the whole circle of violence "theory" just doesn't fly.
-OC

 

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