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Wednesday, August 02, 2006

Cease-Fire in Iraq

Courtesy of Sandy Huffaker and Media Backspin

It's simple, and it will go a little something like this:
At the next UN Security Meeting, Israeli Ambassador Dan Gillerman needs to propose an immediate cease-fire in Iraq. Fighting has been going on there for over 3 years. The insurgents and terrorists show no sign of back down. Hundreds of non-combatants and civilians are dying every-day in suicide attacks and Army mishaps. It's time to come to a lasting and sustainable cease-fire. The democracy in Iraq has no chance of blossoming with this ongoing violence.
Then, Britain and the US' Ambassadors need to stand up and say that that's a crazy idea. "THAT WOULD BE A VICTORY FOR THE TERRORISTS! WE'RE FIGHTING THE WAR ON TERROR, AND IRAQ IS THE FRONT LINES! THIS WOULD BE CRAZY!" They would rightly say.
Then, Mr. Gillerman would respond, "YOU'RE COMPLETELY CORRECT. IT WOULD BE CRAZY TO ATTEMPT TO MAKE A CEASE-FIRE WITH TERRORISTS. YOU COMPLETELY CORRECT THAT A CEASE-FIRE WOULD BE A VICTORY FOR THE TERRORISTS. THEN, WHY ARE YOU ASKING ISRAEL TO COMMITT SUICIDE AND COMMITT TO A CEASE-FIRE WITH HEZBOLLAH?"
Of course, this Resolution would be struck down, but it would give the Europeans and the Americans some food for thought.

Here are the basic facts to keep in mind:
1) A cease-fire now would be a VICTORY for Hezbollah. They want a cease-fire now. They're losing their launchers. They're losing man-power. They would LOVE a cease-fire now. It would give them the perfect opportunity to re-arm, regenerate, and recruit replacement forces. Actually, they would recruit more people than before since the radicals in the Arab world, such as those in Iran and Syria, would see that Hezbollah won and was able to FORCE Israel, via the international powers, into laying down their arms.

2) Contradictory to the liberal and international MSM belief, Israel is using restraint. They have called up reserves, but they haven't used them yet. They are not carpet bombing or completely destroying the villages that they have told to evacuate. In fact, even-though Prime Minister Olmert has used the term "war" many times in his speeches over the past few weeks, he has not officially declared war. That is the definition of restraint. This restraint has resulted in more deaths, on both sides of the fence. Because Israel refuses to use its force properly, more soldiers have died as a result. More civilians and non-combatants have died as a result. It is an undeniable fact that, in war, when the side with superior force uses over-whelming force to over-whelm the enemy, lives are saved, and the fighting ends. Had Israel declared war from day 1, called up several thousand reservists, and evacuated the villages, would NOT be on day 22 of this battle. It would have been over by now, and lives on BOTH sides would have been saved.

3)The West and its liberal and MSM elite has to give up the idea that Israel is fighting an enemy that "shares" the same value system and speaks the same language as we do. As the husband pointed out, the rules of war and international law was written by the West, under western values, and these rules don't apply to Arab Islamofascists. One of the main facets of the Rules of War are shaped around the fact that it is assumed that when fighting an enemy, the enemy is fighting you to PROTECT and DEFEND their civilians. These rules do not apply to groups like Hezbollah and Hamas, because they exploit their civilians and use them in their PR war. Sacrificing their civilians is part of their strategy, NOT DEFENDING THEM. THEY DON'T SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE. These words came from Nasrallah's own mouth in a speech he gave earlier this year:
"Another [of the Zionists] is that both as individuals and as a collective, they are described by Allah as "the people who guard their lives most." Their strong adherence to this world, with all its vanities and pleasures, constitutes a weakness.

In contrast, our people and our nation's willingness to sacrifice their blood, souls, children, fathers, and families for the sake of the nation's honor, life, and happiness has always been one of our nation's strengths.

Think about those words the next time you see a "Qana" and the next time you think that if only the WEST would change their ways, the Arab world would feel better about us. It's a complete clash of cultures and ideals and values. It has nothing to do with "tolerance". Once you understand them and where they're coming from, only then can you defeat Islamofascism and send it back to where it belongs; the Dark Ages. If we don't learn to speak their language and understand what they value or don't value, then, as I've said before, the fight will end up on your door-step. That's what's at risk here. No risk has been this great since Nazism knocked on the world's door, and every-one decided to ignore them. Look at what the results were there. History is doomed to repeat itself because people make excuses and refuse to learn its lessons.
APPEASEMENT=DEATH

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2 Comments:

At 6:53 PM, Blogger heathlander said...

"A cease-fire now would be a VICTORY for Hezbollah"

This whole war has been a victory for Hizbullah, who's claim to be a legitimate resistance group was flagging. The question is: is some 'victory' over Hizbullah more important than international law, than baic morality, than regional stability and than hundreds of innocent lives? The answers, quite obviously, is no.

"Israel is using restraint. They have called up reserves, but they haven't used them yet. They are not carpet bombing or completely destroying the villages that they have told to evacuate."

Erm, just because the IAF hasn't started "carpet bombing" yet doesn't mean it using "restraint". In response to the kidnapping of a couple of soldiers, Israel has launched a war on the population of Lebanon. It has destroyed infrastructure, it has targeted civilians, it has ethnically cleansed the south of the ountry leaving upwards of 800,000 people homeless and it has thrown the book of international law into the fire.
That ain't restraint, that's military power gone wild.

"The West and its liberal and MSM elite has to give up the idea that Israel is fighting an enemy that "shares" the same value system and speaks the same language as we do."

What are you talking about? Don't try and play this up into some war of good and evil. It's quite simple - Hizbullah are fighting a limited campaign, to secure Lebanese control of the Shabaa farms and to get prisoners released. The reason for the hostage takings was complex - internal politics, the crisis in Gaza and Syria all probably had something to do with it.

What 'value system' are you talking about? One that allows the deliberate targeting of civilians? One that justifies violating the law? One that thinks civilian deaths are an acceptable tradeoff for political objectives (i.e. that views terrorism as acceptable)? It seems to me Israel and Hizbullah have lots in common.

 
At 7:48 PM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

heathlander, welcome to site, and welcome to lala land. You clearly have no understanding of military concepts and international law. Your opinion would seem to fall into the same category of some-one who would have caused for the Allies to stop fighting the Nazis in World WarII. If it were up to people like you, we'd still be fighting that war against the Nazis today.

Your propoganda is oh so pointless and oh so wrong. It is also pointed in the wrong direction. It is certainly a sad day in the civilized world when you have people defending Hezbollah and painting Israel as the bad guy.

I don't like to do this, but since you're new, let's go through what you wrote and answer your ignorance:
In response to the kidnapping of a couple of soldiers, Israel has launched a war on the population of Lebanon. It has destroyed infrastructure, it has targeted civilians, it has ethnically cleansed the south of the ountry leaving upwards of 800,000 people homeless and it has thrown the book of international law into the fire.
That ain't restraint, that's military power gone wild.

Unlike a culture that worships and prays for death, Israel and the Judeo-Chrisitian culture sanctifies life. Obviously, your comment of "a couple of soldiers" shows that you do not respect life. I'd like you to say that if it was your brother or friend or father. Secondly, this is not about the soldiers. In case you've forgotten, Hezbollah started firing Katyusha rockets into Israel BEFORE they kidnapped the soldiers. You're from London. What would your country do if France or IRELAND were shooting rockets into central London? Please, tell me what your country's response would be? Israel has the right to defend itself, plain and simple. This was an unprovoked attack against an international border. Unless you're an expert on just war, I don't know how you can't define a more jus balli for war against Hezbollah. What else would Hezbollah have had to do before Israel would be allowed to defend itself, in your book? Drop a nuclear weapon, maybe? Give me a break, please.

Again, it seems you need a little lesson on the rules of war. Instead of me going through this all over again, please read, The "Civilian Targets" Myth Unhinged. Get back to after that and then try to lecture me about attacking "civilian infrastructure".

Thirdly, Israel is NOT targeting civilians. In fact, in accordance with your lesson, there are no civilians in this case. Hezbollah is a terrorist group with no idetifiable uniform under the definitions of the Geneva Convention. Therefore, the people in Lebanon are separated in the categories of combatants and non-combatants. Israel is NOT targeting non-combatants. In war, innocent people die. The rules of war account for the fact that inevitable non-combatants die in conflict. Therefore, you must do everything possible to prevent the deaths of non-combatants. Israel has dropped leaflets, called up peoples' homes, and broadcast warnings to evacuate via radio and Television. How is that "targeting" civilians? Please, learn the facts before you come on here and repeat the incorrect propoganda and rhetoric that The Guardian and The Independent is feeding you. Why don't you also point out the fact that numerous Lebanese people are reporting that Hezbollah is forcibly preventing residents of southern towns from leaving their homes for safety. They are violating all rules of engagement and international law by storing weapons and placing their headquarters in civilian houses and centers. They also fire at Israel from within civilian villages, ensuring non-combatant casualties and are using humans as shields.

On the other hand, Hezbollah is indiscriminately targeting civilians within Israel. Only 1 out of the over 100 cities, villages, towns, and settlements that Hezbollah has hit can be considered a legitimate target. They also have placed ball bearings and shrapnel within their rockets, specifically designed to kill, maim, and injure as many "soft" targets as possible. These methods have nothing to do with targeting military sites. Again, facts, my friend. Learn the facts.

You really have no concept of international law, that is obvious. You also fail to mention the fact that over 2 MILLION Israeli residents have either fleed the north or are sitting in bomb shelters and have been for the past 3 weeks. Unfortunately, Hezbollah doesn't follow the same rules as we do and fail to give the residents any sort of warning before they launch rockets into Israel. This is pathetically ignorant, on your part.

Don't try and play this up into some war of good and evil. It's quite simple - Hizbullah are fighting a limited campaign, to secure Lebanese control of the Shabaa farms and to get prisoners released. The reason for the hostage takings was complex - internal politics, the crisis in Gaza and Syria all probably had something to do with it.
Are you for real? Do you know anything about Hezbollah at all??? From your comments, it's clear that you don't. You're a perfect example of why Britain is in the poor shape that it's in. Why don't you go to Memritv.org and watch Nasrallah's speeched and find out what this is all about. Hezbollah is committed to WIPING ISRAEL OFF THE MAP! Why dont you go and read Hezbollah's charter and see for yourself?

Even IF this was all about prisoners, how does that make launching over 2,000 rockets into sovereign territory as "legitimate"? How does that justify their attacks?!? Since when is attacking another country over prisoners that are LEGALLY held in their custody, for committing crimes or acts of aggression, grounds for attacking them? Please, tell me, so the next time Britain is bombed or suicide attacked over some Muslim being held in Britain's prisons, I can feed your own words back to you.

Secondly, Shabaa Farms is not LEBANESE land. Uch, it's disgusting the ignorance of people, and how they actually think their opinions are legitimate when it's based on lies. How many times does this have to be said? When Israel left Lebanon in 2000, the United Nations declared that Israel had evacuated ALL occupied Lebanese land. They also declared that the Shabaa Farms is SYRIAN territory, and that its status would be decided in later agreement between Israel and SYRIA.

After Israel left in 2000, Hezbollah needed an excuse in order to maintain its legitimacy in the area, so they invented the Shabaa Farms excuse, and they were continuing the resistance to get that land back. Learn a little history here. The reason for the hostage taking is NOT complex. They wanted to start a war with Israel in order to regain power, take the world's attention off of Iran's nuclear program, and to DESTROY ISRAEL!

You are by far, one of the most ignorant readers that have ever come to this blog. Please, learn some facts before you come back and comment again. Honestly, it's impossible to take people like you seriously. You rant and rave and make moral equivilances between democracies and terrorists, yet you know NOTHING about the facts. It's pathetic and sad. Absolutely pathetic and disgusting.
-OC

 

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