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Tuesday, September 05, 2006

What's Your Favorite Way To Fly?

You've got to love what the Brits consider funny, and what they consider "crossing the line". Travelocity would be boycotted and protested if this commercial were aired in the States. But, then again, I'm not big on the whole PC thing. This commericial is down-right hilarious!

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At 6:57 PM, Blogger Gert said...

Everybody has sensitivities and often they are rooted in historical situations. The Brits have a longstanding problem of homophobia until quite recently. That's why such commercials are now entirely acceptable because the taboo has been broken and "everything goes"...

It is a funny commercial.

At 1:27 AM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

So, you think making fun of gay people and sterotyping them is funny? Geese, what a hypocrit.

At 6:27 PM, Blogger Gert said...

You have an uncanny ability to confuse me: re-read the bottom line of your own post...

In principle anything can be the subject of mockery or comedy but the context cannot be ignored. That's why some jokes about Jews are funny and others are downright anti-Semitic. The same holds for jokes about gays, blacks, muslims, etc etc etc.

At 7:25 PM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

Gert, you are easily confused.

At 4:56 PM, Blogger Gert said...

You're implying that it's OK for YOU to think this commercial is hilarious but not for ME. That's confusing especially since you've a habit of calling me a moral relativist!

At 6:33 PM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

No, I'm just calling you a hypocrit. It's fine if you think it's funny. But, to say that this is funny, even-though it's obviously stereotyping male flight intendents as homosexuals, then to say that the French jokes are some-how insulting, and if it were the other way around, I would consider them anti-semitic is just plain hypocrticial. Either, you feel it's OK to poke a bit of fun at all groups, or it's not OK to do so with any-one. Make up your mind, and stick with your decision.

At 6:50 PM, Blogger Gert said...

I never brought francophobia into this thread or this blog, you did and then concluded, also incorrectly, that I find jokes about the French insulting.

I find some jokes about the French (as well as some broad generalisations) in bad taste, possibly francophobic.

I also find many jokes about Jews offensive and downright anti-Semitic.

How about this very old "joke":

Q: How do you cram twenty Jews into Mini Cooper?

A: Put them in the ashtray...

You think this is funny? No, you don't and neither do I. It's anti-Semitic, period.

So, yes, you can poke fun at everything but sometimes you can overstep a line, a line that isn't easy to draw but it's there all the same...

I thought that was self-evident but obviously not to you.

At 2:54 PM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

Gert, thank you for answering none of my questions, YET AGAIN. Actually, there are a lot of Jews that think there are funny holocaust jokes. They're insensitive, but are you going to dare call them anti-semitic? Actually, Gert, another history lesson for you. Jews made jokes about the holocaust DURING the holocaust.

Gert, to say that these French jokes are anywhere in the area of being in the vicinity of even being in the same planet as holocaust jokes is completely ridiculous, to say the least. And, you did bring up "francophobia" on this blog. Again, would you like me to find it and jog your memory? You said you never brought it up on your blog, either, but that wasn't true, was it?

You didn't find "some" of the French jokes insensitive, you found ALL of them bad. Again, answer the following question: Are you Jewish?

At 5:54 PM, Blogger Gert said...

You are now simply lying through your teeth and I will leave you to it.

I didn't bring francophobia up here. I never said I hadn't brought it up on my blog. These threads didn't start about francophobia: had the jokes been about Hottentots, the question I would have raised would have been the same.

I didn't find the French jokes insensitive, I feel though that some people would find similar jokes about Jews, Israel or Israelis anti-Semitic. This is especially true if these jokes or remarks would have been made by non-Jews.

No, I'm not Jewish: I thought you already knew that.

At 5:57 PM, Blogger Gert said...

I had already answered you question about not being Jewish below.

At 11:41 PM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

Yes, but you didn't answer any of the other questions. You can accuse me of lying as a way to scew the issue, but no-one's buying it.
Firstly, I never mentioned francophobia... You seem to have short-term memory loss. You should get that checked out. This is going around in circles. Bottom line is this: We have established that you really need to go out and find your sense of humor, or borrow it from some-one else, because you've obviously lost yours; if you ever had one to begin with. Second, you have a lot of nerve thinking you can speak for some-one else, especially a Jew or even an Israeli (two things of which you are NOT), and determine for them what would be considered insulting or derogatory "if it were the other way around...". If a French person comes on here and says those jokes are insulting to him, I'll apologize to them, but not to you. I think I can tell what's anti-semitic and/or anti-Israel a bit more than you can, no? So, again, don't think you can make your argument against some petty French jokes with the "if it were the other way around" bit, because, again, you just don't have the proper credentials to make that charge.

The next time I make some British jokes, then you can make some comments on whether they're offensive or not. OK?

At 9:16 PM, Blogger Gert said...

Where does it say I have to answer all your questions?

And you can't understand that a person does not have to be a member of a particular group to be able to spot discriminatory behaviour towards that group or one of its members, then to me that's plain absurd.


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