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Friday, November 03, 2006

*UPDATE*: Further Proof of Libel

To all those readers that say that The Independent's FRONT PAGE article touting "scientific proof" that Israel used "enriched uranium" bombs in this summer, which is a complete FARCE, does not constitute a 21st century blood libel, needs to read Lebanon's independent investigation of southern Lebanon.
Lebanese Scientist: Southern Lebanon Radiation-Free

There are no signs of radiation as a result of IDF bombing the war against Hizbullah terrorists, a Lebanese scientist has told Voice of Lebanon radio. "We stick to the fact that uranium-based munitions were not used during the recent war; we have not detected any radiation proving the presence of depleted uranium," said Mouin Hamzeh, president the National Council for Scientific Research.

Hizbullah terrorists, environmental and human rights groups have claimed that samples of bombed out craters showed high radiation levels.

Given Lebanon's perpencity this past summer of labeling Israel and their actions in the worst light, even going so far as to make up casualty numbers, it would seem very likely that Lebanon would have added interests in perpetuating the claim that Israel used nuclear agents or "dirty bombs" against Lebanese people. However, it is the exact opposite. Unless Israel has suddenly developed secret weapons whose radiation contents are able to dissipate, which these groups would have no problem in saying, than these groups have some explaining to do.

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At 3:21 PM, Blogger amechad said...

OK. This is good. This is proof or credible material that can be spread to the media outlets to refute the Independent report.

A Lebanese scientist (who has the incentive therefore to make Israel look bad) saying Israel is innocent is an excellent and credible source to refute the claims.

This is what we need but we need these reports sooner, as soon as the reports come out (or sooner). Remember, a lot of what the media reports is actually old news. To use the phosphorus example, I was reading about those in anti-Israel sites for weeks before the mainstream media reported it.

At 6:04 PM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

am, you are right in that sense. We shouldn't have other countries doing the explaining for us. This is what I meant when I said that Israel needs a much better Media Relations Bureau. Israel should be going after the lies, not everyone else.

At 10:14 AM, Blogger Behemoth101 said...

That's a sophist agument if I ever saw one.

How many Lebanese Uncle Toms does it take for you to convince yourselves that Israel gloriously descended into Lebanon spreading sunshine and cheer?

At 10:39 AM, Blogger Oleh Yahshan said...

I don't remember when either me or my wife have invited you back to comment on our blog.

Am I to assume that by writing here you are willing to follow the basic guidelines that we have set (for everyone)?

As for your comment (and the post on your blog relating to this), you clearly don't understand what you are talking about.

We are not looking for that "pet" (as you put it) in order to approve our claims. Simply pointing out that what the Independent wrote was nonsense by using someone from the "other side".

This concept is used a lot in academic studies to disprove another argument. In this case there was also a political reason behind the Independent's writing and sloppy journalism.

Btw - you do it yourself all the time trying to prove how bad the "Zionist" (or whatever silly names you have come up with) - any time an Israeli says something you might agree with you bring it as proof to your (amusing, to say the least) Claims.

Last line of advice, Although I think it is great that you are joining forces with the Anti-Israel "Party", be aware that you are also starting to use some of their Anti-semitic terms as well (maybe without even noticing) - like referring to the situation in the WB and Gaza as "Holocaust" and calling someone a Holocaust denier because they don't see the "truth" about what is happening to the Palestinians. But this is for another time.

At 2:58 PM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

It's always fun when the left uses racist statements in an argument without any thought to being racist. "I'm a liberal! I CAN'T be racist". In any case, I second my husband's sentiment. You were banned from this blog, but somehow and somewhere, you got some sort of thought in your head that it was OK to comment again. Here's your second chance. You know the rules.

On that note, do you have anything of substance to contribute to this discussion, or are you just here to hurl accusations, insults, and name calling?

At 8:03 PM, Blogger shlemazl said...

Lebanese are less biased and anti-Israeli than left-wing Brits. Good find.

At 8:41 PM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

Thanks, shlemazl. Tell me, in your scientific opinion, is it legitimate to use an "opposing" view-point to disprove an argument? Just curious to note your take on things.

At 10:13 PM, Blogger Behemoth101 said...

Not if it's a fabricated one that is characteristically misrepresentative of the whole.

At 12:21 AM, Blogger Olah Chadasha said...

Fabricated? What's fabricated? Please elaborate. Again, if you're going to hurl accusations, please be more specific and bring in proof. Note, Wikipedia doesn't cut it.

At 5:14 AM, Blogger Juanita said...

Thanks for the update. No PR bureau in the world could keep up with the propaganda spread by Muslim, Arabs, Lefties, garden-variety antisemites and fueled by the OIL-$. That's why people like you and me do what we do. Keep up the good work.


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